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Doorways
of Support and Inspiration:
Life
Challenge as a Mythic Journey
Transforming Lives through Dealing with Adversity, Trauma and the Unexpected An Interview with Richard A. Heckler,
Ph.D., author of "Crossings: Everyday People, Unexpected Events
and Life-Affirming Change" (Harcourt Brace & Company, New York).
By Alissa M. Lukara
Crossings is a literal life raft for anyone dealing with a life challenge, adversity, trauma or otherwise having an encounter with the unexpected. It shows how people open themselves to unimagined possibilities and create rich meaning out of passages that often completely change their lives. In the book, Richard Heckler charts the six stages of personal and spiritual transformation. These stages provide a map to help navigate adversity, trauma and all forms of life's challenges:
- The
Slumber
- The
Call
- The
Incubation
- The
Search for Meaning
- The
Leap
- The
Integration
It
is these stages and the potential which lies within each one that
Heckler discusses in the interview which follows.
HOW CROSSINGS CAME INTO BEING
ALISSA: I'd like to start by having you talk generally about the idea for Crossings and how you decided to do this particular book, which is so pertinent to anyone dealing with trauma and adversity.
RICHARD: My greatest passion as a therapist and as a spiritual practitioner
has always been the transformative moments and how they occur. Attempting
to distill all the particulars of the stories, all the details that
are individual to various people I interview and see if there is
a common structure underneath. I've done a number of pieces of research
and, whether consciously or not, I seem to be most drawn to the
pivot points in people's lives. Most often, of course, they do occur
in times of great stress, life challenges, suffering, mostly in
the form of loss. But certainly there are others as well, more epiphanies,
kind of grand celestial or peak kind of experiences that people
have. I wanted to study that formally, for Crossings.
I traveled around the country. Whenever I was giving talks or seminars
or teaching, I would put out the word in advance and would interview
people who had experiences of the unexpected kind, and who, based
on those experiences, fundamentally changed their lives.
DISCOVERING THE SIX STAGES
ALISSA: You mention six stages that people who experience the unexpected go through, often while they are in the throes of dealing with adversity and trauma. Could you talk about how you arrived at these particular stages?
RICHARD: After seeing clients for twenty-five years and being involved
in spiritual practice, I'd heard quite a number of stories. It always
seemed to me there was one piece that was missing in the stories.
The piece that was evident was that something unexpected, often
quite dramatic, happened, and usually, in the short form of the
story, it changed their lives. It's a very passively oriented story:
God came down, hit you on the head, and your life changed.
Yet, I knew from the deep psychotherapeutic work, that happens for
people, that there's a lot of active and proactive voices that respond
in certain ways and make meaning of life. This active component
didn't get recognized very much, however. I wanted to explore in
these six stages, The Slumber, The Call, The Incubation, The Search
for Meaning, The Leap and The Integration, both the active and passive
component of these. The actual happening, the Call that takes you
out of Slumber, nobody can control. You can't time it. You can't
prepare for it. It just happens. But the other phases are about
an active response to what's happened.
We begin with a kind of baseline to our lives; we live our lives
in a certain fashion. This is what spiritual materials, perennial
wisdoms and psychological theories and texts call the "trance of
our everyday life." I found that to be a compelling phrase because
a trance really means a narrowing of attention on a few selected
realities; in a way, we tunnel in. It's like commuters who have
to get to work on time. They're not necessarily looking at the flowers
on the side of the road. They're looking at the traffic in front
of them. Or somebody studying for a test- they're not thinking about
the dinner that they're eating right then, but wolfing it down while
they're reading the material. Doing this is very functional and
it works, so we truthfully go in and out of trances many times during
the day.
ALISSA: But people don't see themselves as living in a trance...
RICHARD: It has a way of generalizing as a lifestyle, and it's reinforced
in its usefulness individually and familiarly and culturally. So
over time, we lose the sense that we actually are in a trance. There
is the capacity for waking up within that trance. The six stages
evolved from listening to the stories about waking up. I didn't
go in with a preconceived notion what they should look like, what
they should be named, what follows what. Oftentimes the interviews
would be 3-4 hours long to start with, with a number of follow-ups
over the telephone afterwards. We ended up laughing and crying and
being amazed and, oftentimes, lost in a sense of time and place
in the story. So it was very rich. And I also felt in some way we
were participating in this great tradition, the great oral tradition,
that's been passed, where the great stories were passed down about
life's lessons from person to person.
ALISSA: That really came across to me in the book. There's a tremendous
amount of heart and spirit and mind, an honoring both of what people
do and the mystery of life that is very profound.
RICHARD: After getting all of these interviews, I would look for
what were the commonalties among them. What emerged was the six
stages. I noticed that these stages had been referred to in other
disciplines in earlier times. For example, Arnold van Gennep, a
path breaking anthropologist, formulated this whole passage as a
three stage model and really influenced the course of anthropology
and participatory anthropology. He identifies the three stages as:
Separation, Transition and Incorporation, where people have something
happen, separate themselves from the community, go through something
deeply, then come back out. While I flesh my model out more, both
are very much in the same spirit, which is both comforting and intriguing,
because as a therapist, I feel more like an anthropologist than
a clinician in many ways. I am trying to discover some things about
this culture that the person undergoing a passage brings in and
how the culture contributes to whatever suffering they have.
THE SIX STAGES:
SLUMBER
ALISSA: So let's talk about the Slumber.
RICHARD: The trance of the everyday life was the first thing. I
discovered that for some people, it was a chronic depression. For
some it was a ferocious, cold, drug-induced sociopathy. For others,
their life was actually going quite well. The Slumber is like the
backdrop; it's what you see at the theatre before everybody comes
on stage. And it's on that stage that the entrance of the unexpected
presents itself and occurs.
THE CALL
ALISSA: Which is the next stage, the Call.
RICHARD: I chose to use the metaphor of lightning to describe the
stage of the Call, because as people talked about it, it really
did seem striking and impersonal, in the same way as lightning.
Lightning crashes through the roof of your house, or breaks your
windows. It doesn't matter if you live in a shanty or a mansion.
This bolt that comes into your life is both striking and alarming,
and it leaves the entire landscape changed-as we find out, irrevocably.
So the entrance of the unexpected is the second stage. For some
people it was a near death experience or surviving a car accident
they never should have survived. Some had a transportive kind of
experience like Catherine, a woman who worked for the army as a
top counter intelligence officer. A friend suggested she ask God
for help with some problems she was having. Laying on her bunk at
a military base, not even knowing if she believed in God, Catherine
suddenly felt transported out of her body. She met a Christ-like
figure who took her up to the top of a hill and showed her the lights
of a beautiful city, where she knew beings were engaged in purposeful
activity. The meaning of this was not clear at the time, but its
effect was so compelling that she tried to make sense of it, for
a long time afterwards. This was quite a contrast to the environment
of top-secret counterintelligence.
For Christopher, the Call was quite subtle; a scene of church lit
up with a cross against the evening sky in California, a recognition
that for the first time he was experiencing a dialogue with a force
larger than himself, then, later, hearing a voice that said, "Don't
you ever worry about tomorrow."
For Tara, the call was quite dramatic. First, she had a near death
experience. Then, a Native American man suddenly appeared out of
nowhere in her living room, while she was cleaning and told her
she would be with him in Taos by the end of the year.
Whatever these situations were, one thing they had in common was
that they were just impossible to ignore-as were the fundamental
life changes that people experienced afterwards. In many of the
examples, there was something very alien about the entrance of the
unexpected, but there was also something very intimate. The unexpected
seemed to speak in a special code, a very special, personal code.
For Brook, a concert flutist feeling disconnected from her music
and experiencing the death of her marriage, the experience spoke
to her in terms of music. She actually saw a musical staff floating
in the air, and the sense of knowing that she received didn't come
from a voice, but from the music itself, which had always spoken
to her. For Tara, it was the appearance of the Native American man.
He wasn't European or Chinese, but Native American, and although
she wasn't thinking about it at the time, this event directly referred
to and served the purpose of bringing her back into her native American
tradition.
A Process of Separation
ALISSA: What happened after the unexpected entered people's lives?
RICHARD: That was even more fascinating. The entrance of the unexpected
seemed to shunt people into a period of separation regardless of
whether they wanted it or not, regardless of whether they understood
what was happening or not. Something about their world was fundamentally
different. Their relationship to all the objects in that world seemed
suspended for a while, so that the things that they would do for
pleasure, didn't seem that pleasurable any more. Certain levels
of conversation no longer felt satisfying.
What compounded the challenge is that many times, the people who
had these experiences had difficulty describing them to their friends,
loved ones and community. This period was really a precursor, a
preface, and indicator that a change in their community was afoot,
that something was ending and something new would begin somewhere
down the line. Here in the middle, however, the space was highly
ambiguous, but also very symbolically rich.
When the unexpected enters people's lives, there's no rule book,
no guide book, no map, so people follow what they think are subtle
clues or hints or signs. Separation is a very internal, introspective
phase during which people pass through the next two stages of the
process of transformation:
INCUBATION
During incubation, something is dying out and something else is
getting ready to be born, but it's not born yet. Oftentimes, what's
dying out is old ways of being. It is very similar to what people
write about when they talk about the major life transitions, like
the astrological event known as the Saturn return when comes when
somebody is 28 or like what people call the midlife crisis or the
midlife transition. All the ways you have put together your life-you
may have even been doing quite well in a lot of ways-just don't
seem to be as useful, functional or meaningful anymore and you just
can't get it up to do it again. This is fine, but you also don't
have anything new or different to substitute for those ways yet.
Because of this, Incubation is intensely vexing and painful, and
people feel tremendously lost. This is what St. John discussed when
he wrote about the "dark night of the soul", also known as the "night
thief witch" in mythology. In this place, we have a sense that this
is where we need to be, but it doesn't feel very good. We know that
there may be great potential here, that life is moving at its own
pace and the new will unfold in its own time. The question is what
do we do in the meantime?
THE SEARCH FOR MEANING
The second stage that's going on during separation is a fervent
search for meaning. This is where people ask: Why did this happen?
What does it mean? What does it mean in terms of my life? What does
it mean in the context of this world and this universe that such
a thing that I never expected to happen could have happened? Most
of the people I interviewed weren't new age people living from out-of-body
experience to out-of-body experience. They never expected something
like this to happen to them and many of them never knew anything
about these types of occurrences in the first place.
From the outside, the intense search for meaning that occurs could
look obsessive, but from the inside, people feel it as the absolute
right place to be right now-even if they have to let go of relationships
or jobs or where they live or money or whatever else they need to
let go of. This search becomes the quest of life. This is the great
quest.
A Mythic Journey
ALISSA: It's like what Joseph Campbell refers to as the hero's journey.
RICHARD: All the legends throughout time and across cultures have
written about when people go off in some way like the wanderer or
the traveler or the hermit or the monk. In western culture, we're
at somewhat of a disadvantage at this point, because in indigenous
cultures, they're so familiar with these stages that they prescribe
them. They take a novice, a young girl or boy, along with the other
adolescents, away from their hut, from their family. Then, for a
period of years or months, they're trained in the esoteric ways
of the culture or community. They learn the names of all their ancestors.
They learn how to find medicinal plants. They learn spiritual practices.
They learn how to survive in the woods or the desert and spend the
night alone. Many things develop, but they are also giving a sense
of structure to this period. In this culture, we don't have this
sense of structure.
ALISSA: No, in fact everything works against us having it.
RICHARD: We live in a culture that prizes achievement, accumulation,
success and then holding on to all of that. As a result, when the
unexpected comes, as it often does, in the form of loss or sudden
turnabouts, we quickly interpret the events as meaning something
is wrong. The culture further reinforces this idea when mental care
givers throw diagnostic labels at this transition and further pathologize
it.
One of the great lessons in the separation phase is that just because
all of this is happening doesn't mean that something is wrong. Instead,
something is being born. I attempt to instruct the students and
therapists at the universities where I teach to remember this: The
huge diagnostic label that they carry with them to their graduation
is actually very small in scale compared to the nature and scope
of this passage.
ALISSA: Absolutely, I wholeheartedly agree.
RICHARD: However, just because we don't have a structure-just because
we don't have rituals and passages for our young people and our
culture marginalizes our elders rather than looks to them to pass
on this structure-doesn't mean that we don't go bumbling through
this passage anyway. We do. And it's oftentimes inelegant and awkward.
It's challenging and frustrating. Since there's no test of how long
it's going to take, some people are in it for months and some are
in it for years. I met some people who've been in this phase for
20 or 30 years. It's almost as if they are swirling in an eddy that
got stuck in this phase. This passage is not meant to be a lifestyle,
but I think that when there's an absence of information and certainly
when this phase is pathologized, people can get stuck here for quite
some time. So that's the separation phase.
The Incubation says there's something growing inside, something
new is coming. The very first sign of meaning. Then, at some point,
during the Search for Meaning, people do get a sense of what happened
to them. What I think they notice more than anything else is that
during this process, the baseline of their life-their interests,
their values, what they're inspired by-has shifted. Oftentimes,
this is when people find spiritual practice.
Overall, however, they find that something has changed. Now, they
either feel ready to make some decisions based on the new baseline
or some decisions come down the pike which need to be made-about
friends, loved ones, family, relationships, jobs, geography. What
they discover is that they're making them from a different point
of view.
THE LEAP
ALISSA: These decisions and the subsequent actions people take are
what you call the Leap.
RICHARD: People still might not even be able to explain their decisions
so easily to others and from the outside the decisions may look
quite inadvisable. Other people might even ask, "How can you do
such a thing?" From the inside, however, what they're doing feels
absolutely right-that this is the next extension. Some people move
from the cities to the country or from east to west. Some people
leave relationships, and others decide to be in relationships for
reasons that they had never entertained.
For example, Rebecca went sailing with three young men and, as a
result of a storm, their boat capsized. They were lost at sea for
many days, during which time they experienced many trials and did
not know if they would survive.
Just before this sea journey, Rebecca had been on a three month
meditation retreat and what she learned there helped her navigate
the terror and other deep emotions that surfaced while lost. Meditation
practice helped her experience times where she was calmer and more
self-possessed, even in the midst of danger. adventure, and lived
through storms and many other trials. When they returned, the other
three men remained quite traumatized, but she didn't feel the affects
of being lost at all. Her meditation practice, staying mindful and
aware and in the present moment, had pulled her through. She decided
then and there that anything she did, any decision she made would
be based around the fostering and supporting of her meditation practice.
Her decisions about family, husband, work, all had to accommodate
her essential purpose, which was that she would deepen her spiritual
understanding.
I think that pretty much everyone I interviewed experienced something
like that. A Leap. It's interesting though, the Leap doesn't really
feel like a leap from the inside. No one had a really good word
for what it felt like from the inside, because in some ways, that
Leap may not even be that big a deal from the inside perspective.
It's just the next step. But, from the outside, it looks like a
leap.
I don't know if you remember the last Indiana Jones movie with Harrison
Ford and Sean Connery. Indiana Jones gets to this canyon and he
has this old tattered map and it says that you need to put your
foot out over the edge of this cliff and step off.
ALISSA: That's a great scene.
RICHARD: You remember it?
ALISSA: It's the only scene from the movie that I do remember. To
me, it's one of the memorable scenes of all time.
RICHARD: And it must have had every viewer in the theater watching
at that point. Ford and Connery couldn't just put their little toe
in as a test. They had to put all their weight on their foot as
they stepped off the edge of that cliff onto nothingness, blank
air. They had to trust, and then suddenly, when they stepped, instead
of falling hundreds of feet down a sheer precipice, they discovered
this bridge that was there all the time-only it was invisible. So,
that's the Leap that people make, although from the inside, it doesn't
always feel that way, that dramatic. It often just feels like the
next logical thing to do.
During the Leap, people begin to make decisions from a different
place than before. They find themselves creating a new structure
to their lives. Much of what they learned in the separation phase
is brought to bear.
THE INTEGRATION
What's interesting is that when people make this kind of passage,
they don't come out of it saying "I'm going to rededicate myself
to expanding my money market portfolio." They're much more interested
in spiritual phenomena, spiritual practice. I found a progression
that people went through, which I didn't write about in the book
so much, but conceptualized afterwards. In this progression, their
primary motivation in the beginning of the separation phase is fear.
They don't know what happened and the motivation to find out is
huge. At some point the fear seems to dissipate and their motivation
goes from fear-driven to curiosity-driven. Then, by the end of this
passage, in the Integration phase, their motivation for the kinds
of things they do often becomes generosity-based. People feel like
they want to give back something of what they learned. It's this
wholehearted, full-bodied passage.
Tara ended up being a director of an international program for troubled
adolescents, offering both indigenous teachings and wilderness experiences.
It became so successful, there are branches all over the world.
So she got to be out on the land, she got to practice Native American
practices and she also got to use a considerable administrative
skill that she discovered over the years.
Christopher became a minister, but really didn't experience much
freedom and satisfaction in the confines of the traditional church,
so he began to take his ministry into the community. He did a lot
of work with AIDS patients in San Jose creating rituals of thankfulness
for people suffering from AIDS. Thousands and thousands of people
came. He also developed a foundation that helped channel money to
poor communities and to people in those communities who had an idea
of what would really be helpful from the inside. So there are many
people, who in small ways and big ways, and in institutional and
non-institutional ways, felt that their life work, at least in part,
had something to do with giving back.
ALISSA: I can see that.
THE CYCLE STARTS AGAIN
RICHARD: Then I think what we found is that the cycle starts again.
This new world, this new reality, this new set of values, becomes
the background again. It's a much richer, much deeper, and much
less routinized background than the one before. However, it doesn't
stop there. People describe going through the cycle of stages a
number of times. Oftentimes, they say that the unexpected becomes
less dramatic. The signs they seem to need are more subtle, and
they become more accustomed to the unusual happening-less thrown
by it. When it happens now, it's no big deal. They just kind of
search around and see what it might mean. What they're really describing
is developing a working relationship with the unexpected, which
was the working title of the book: "Developing a working relationship
with the unexpected"-before Crossings became the main title.
I think developing a working relationship with the unexpected is
very similar to what spiritual teachers have talked about when they
talk about practicing dying. You practice exploring the experience
of having to let go or having to surrender and finding something
underneath that's deeper and richer and more enduring than whatever
it was that you were holding on to. And it's not a one shot deal;
it's something that we end up doing over and over again throughout
our lives.
ALISSA: Absolutely. Can you talk more about that? Personally, it's one of the challenges I've encountered when faced with an unexpected adversity or trauma-to allow, to really be able to surrender to that.
RICHARD: For the people that I interviewed, I think all of them
were complete novices when the first event happened. It really was
an initiation. And they were as ungraceful and inelegant in their
response as anyone could be. It was really trial and error. The
ones that had a touch more perspective felt that their lives were
a little bit like scratch paper, and they would experiment. But
they all felt from the experience of the unexpected that they were
buoyed or connected to, or were part of something that was much
larger and much more meaningful. From that, they could derive at
least a smidgen of confidence, so that when they could see themselves
holding onto the past-because that's what first happened-whether
it was holding onto a job, a relationship, some way of viewing the
world, some habit or some addiction, whatever they held onto, they
could begin the process of experimenting and letting go based on
the faith that there was something underneath.
I think in Pali in the ancient Teravadin language, the word for
faith is sada. It's actually poorly translated in English to faith,
but what sada means is to place your heart upon, like you're placing
your heart on an altar, or you're placing your heart on something
that you are endeavoring to trust. And people learn from their first
adventures through the passage, that it's actually safe to let go.
They also find that it's sort of habit forming after a while. As
they get more proficient and develop more life experiences, the
practice of letting go in the face of difficulty shows itself as
being so much more ecological. It's just enormously ecological.
It is in relationship, because it causes less tension. It is in
tune with our resources because it causes less hoarding. It develops
a state of mind that is much more compassionate, because we know
the suffering that comes from holding on, and gripping ourselves.
When we know that and we begin to have experiences of that, it's
ok to let go. Then we can help others to do that, too. You could
very easily classify most of the suffering in the world as coming
from an unwillingness to let go.
ALISSA: Which also includes not just letting go of things or people
or attitudes, but just letting go of your own control.
RICHARD: Yes, your own sense of control. Finally giving it up.
ALISSA: In fact, what I've personally found is that, when I get
to that place of just letting go and turning it over to a higher
power, what emerges from that is so much richer, so much more aligned
and often has no bearing on what I rationally thought could or should
happen.
RICHARD: At least from the perspective that we had before the passage.
ALISSA: Right, what turns out is in a sense the most rational outcome.
RICHARD: It really turns out to be the most rational and the most
reasonable from the perspective of having gone through the passage.
" IF YOU FIND YOURSELF FALLING, JUMP"-EXPLORING THE UNEXPECTED
ALISSA: I really look at life as one big lesson at this moment in time and the whole concept of searching for meaning in something really takes you out of the role of being the victim when dealing with adversity and trauma and let's you gain perspective and the learning from it. I wondered if you could talk about that-the difference between going through a life challenge and growing from it or becoming embittered by it...how can we consciously make that choice?
RICHARD: It's certainly an excellent question. Carl Jung once said
that, "If you find yourself falling, jump." The people I interviewed
who found themselves falling into this separation phase jumped-even
though there was fear. They used it to explore as deeply as they
could who they were, what their relationship to the earth was, what
their relationship to others was, what their relationship to spirituality
was and what this might have meant. For those people who embarked
on that kind of quest, which is so rich, so unconventional, so fantastic
and rewarding in its own right, bitterness never became part of
the mix. There was grief. Yes. Sadness- you bet. There was anger
sometimes-yes-and frustration. But the victimization that bitterness
represents wasn't there, because they took an active part in what
was happening. Even when people who experienced catastrophe responded
in this way, they unearthed resources that they never knew they
had to continue to cope, while coping was necessary, and they really
began to put the pieces of that experience together into a fuller
and richer life. They also found themselves markedly changed by
all that.
I also talked to people who didn't question in this way. There were
a lot of people who had experiences that were pretty amazing, certainly
as dramatic as the ones in the book, and they didn't give it much
thought. I remember one woman who was suffering from chronic and
fairly debilitating back pain for a decade or so. She went on a
self-pilgrimage to Pyramid Lake which is outside of Reno. It's on
old Native American land and is spoken about in reverential tones.
She had an experience there and her back pain completely left. She
drove the 11 hours back home and was still fine, but she never gave
it much thought. Within 3 or 4 months, the back pain came back,
and she looked at what happened as just an interesting experience
in her life, like a good meal. She didn't think about more than
that, and I think that's the critical difference. When people really
begin to really investigate what happens, the investigation-which
isn't academic-is propelled by something that arrested their world,
changed their life. In the middle of an adventure, people don't
stop that long for self pity and bitterness.
A MODEL FOR THE UNCONSCIOUS OR A USEFUL FRAMEWORK?
ALISSA: You spoke about wake up calls repeating, but coming less
intense. Do you think they're dramatic when there's something you
really very much need to learn in your life, but you're not looking
at it?
RICHARD: It would certainly fit nicely in a model. To the degree
that we're really tightly holding on or that there's something about
which we're particularly unconscious or dense, this unexpected comes
in a stronger fashion to jolt us out of it. Certainly Jung felt
that way. Jung felt that the unconscious in a person had a compensatory
function. So, to the degree that individuals had become overly ego-invested
in a particular way of being-maybe they were a rich, extroverted,
power broker type of person-he would expect that some time in their
lives they would be upended in the service of growing into being
a whole person.
However, you can't really relegate everything that happened to the
people in my book to being products of the unconscious. It doesn't
fit. So this question that you asked is really about second guessing
nature, and I don't know about that. The truth is that we don't
know. But people report, somewhat in hindsight, that when they felt
really stuck in their lives and the unexpected happened, it certainly
bumped them out.
ALISSA: It is certainly one way.
RICHARD: It is certainly a viable world belief. It's not clear that
is exactly what happens, but it's certainly even more than viable.
It seems to apply to a lot of people. And I find in working with
people it's a very useful frame, so that when the unexpected happens
to them in the form of emotional and psychological distress, we
can look at this as just another entrance of the unexpected rather
than a confirmation of someone's sickness.
It's a very different way of looking at it. Then we're talking about
what is this depression is saying? What kind of message is it bringing?
I've worked with people who have panic attacks and anxiety disorders,
and the traditional way of working with them is trying to ameliorate
the panic and using biofeedback-like approaches. They're all very
good, but they don't necessarily focus on the possible meaning of
it. I think situations like that are a strong call from somewhere-whether
deep in the unconscious or someplace out in the cosmic records-I
don't know. They're a very deep call for change. Having that kind
of frame becomes very helpful because it focuses on your future,
rather than some sense that this has happened to you because of
your past, because the past is evidently something that we can't
change.
NEW AGE GUILT
ALISSA: Also, could you speak about the whole new age concept that
if you're really thinking right...
RICHARD: ...you'll create your own world.
ALISSA: Right. And clearly there is free will in the world, but
that kind of feeds that whole notion, that if something unexpected
happens in your life, particularly if it has a negative connotation
to it, that you've essentially blown it.
RICHARD: It's very limited thinking.
ALISSA: I think so.
RICHARD: It's what we ended up with, by the mid 80's when a lot
of us were more fed up with some of the simplistic thinking we call
the new age guilt. It's very similar to the concept of sin-this
idea that "I wasn't pure enough in my thinking, I didn't do enough
affirmations, I wasn't positive enough and this is what happens."
We simply don't know that. I think that in any model of what happens
to us, there has to be a kind of "x" factor represented by the question
mark. Who knows? We really don't know. Many of the great spiritual
seekers and teachers have urged us to cultivate something called
the "don't-know" mind. I think that's because when faced with something
ambiguous and certainly when faced with the unexpected, there's
part of us that wants to depotentiate it. If we can create some
phrases or words or sound bites, that would help us put it in a
box. Then it's not so powerful and its not so uncontrollable. We've
decided it's a mid-life crisis or that kind of thing. It's very
thin thinking from my point of view.
GQ--THE GENEROSITY QUOTIENT
ALISSA: On that note, we're coming to the end of our interview time,
Richard. Do you have anything you want to say in conclusion?
RICHARD: I guess I do. Buddha once said that if you could see, if
you could know what I know, if you could know how impactful on life
it is to organize your life around generosity, you would give everything
you have every moment of the day. And this wasn't just a prescription
for being a good person.
After having done all of this research and seeing this very broad
transition that people made from being fear based to curiosity based
to generosity based, time after time after time, I've seen people
come out of this transition wanting to help others.
Traditional psychology in some ways has gotten caught in attempting
to become more and more of a medical science, complete with diagnostic
categories, and proceeding with therapeutic interventions based
on the labeling of these diagnostic categories. I think the whole
process can be short circuited if we begin to more actively bring
the practice and the understanding of generosity into the mix.
I'm not saying that we won't still go through big life transitions,
but a lot of our "holding on" is based on a kind of poverty model
of limited resources-limited emotional resources, time resources,
financial resources-and the more individualized and fast our culture
becomes, the more that part is reinforced. I think a lot of suffering
in the world and certainly in the western technological world can
be staved off with a much more intelligent understanding of generosity--its
psychology, its benefit to the person giving it, certainly its benefit
in terms of the community. I lack the words to describe it as deeply
as I am beginning to see it.
Just as Daniel Goleman wrote this book called Emotional Intelligence
a couple of years ago and people started using the phrase EQ instead
of IQ, I think there's a GQ as well-a generosity quotient. We need
more understanding of what happens when people give something. Giving
can be very simple. It doesn't have to be very ornate. We need to
look for the opportunity to give in the moments of our lives. So
that's what I'm left with. The field of psychology could actually
be much broader and more successful if we brought that in in some
substantial, fundamental way instead of placing an emphasis on psychopathology.
HONORING OUR INTERDEPENDENCE
ALISSA: So, you're talking about in terms of actually helping people
reach out and help other people.
RICHARD: Yes. And what it does psychologically is enormous-the effects
that it has in terms of breaking down isolation. The truth is that
we're neither 100% dependent, and we're certainly not independent.
We're interdependent. Think of all the people that went into making
this short phone interview possible-all of the people that grew
the rubber plants to create the insulation for the wires, all the
people that laid the wires, all of the people in the shops that
made the trucks that helped telephone trucks to go out and do what
they do. It just goes on and on and on and on. So I think the practice
of generosity is a direct mainline to understanding our interdependence
and how we are so ecologically connected with one another. When
we act in a very ritual, routinized way on a personal level and
on a geopolitical level, we are really going against nature. It
could be much easier than this. That's where what I've researched
and studied has led me at this point.
ALISSA: I think that's very profound and real. I very much relate to the whole notion of interdependence. I love the Native American concept that if one part of the community is sick, all of the community is sick and needs healing. So that rather than trying to separate out so much from each other and from people who are going through life challenges, we need to be more inclusive. Sometimes, people can't handle being around people who are undergoing adversity and trauma.
RICHARD: That's right. The second thing I wanted to convey in conclusion
is the seriousness and the coherence of the passage through the
unexpected. One of the reasons that I wanted to write this book
is that I wanted there to be something that spoke to people who
are in the middle stages of the passage, or who had come out and
really didn't have other people to speak to about it. I wanted to
show some sense of the importance of trusting nature here-that we
are all part of this process and oftentimes, we put a period at
the end of the sentence prematurely. There are a lot more sentences
to be written.
Richard A. Heckler, Ph.D. is the Director of the Hakomi Institute
of San Francisco, and trains therapists and educators throughout
the U.S. and England. He is also an Adjunct Professor at both J.F.K
University, in California, as well as Union Graduate School, in
Ohio. He specializes in body-oriented psychotherapy and has extensive
training in family systems work. The author of Crossings: Everyday
People, Unexpected Events and Life Affirming Change and of Waking
Up Alive, Richard is presently writing a book studying the recovery
process from attempted suicide. To find out about Richard's workshops,
talks, books, etc., you can reach him at 707-935-8755 or at rheckler@sonic.net.
Alissa Lukara is
the author of the memoir
Riding Grace: A Triumph of
the Soul (Silver Light Publications, February 2007) and president
and founder of this nonprofit website, Lifechallenges.org, which provides individuals in 97 countries worldwide
with the self help tools they need to cope with and transcend adversity.
Riding
Grace chronicles Alissa's 12 year quest through the dark night of
adult chronic fatigue syndrome and childhood sexual abuse to accept the
unacceptable and find wholeness and healing. She offers inspiring workshops and
presentations to groups, drawing on her personal healing experiences and the
larger perspective she gained from them and empowering people to use challenges
to transform their lives.
Lukara’s work
has appeared in numerous publications including Conscious Women, Conscious
Lives, the secret of salt: an indigenous journal, and Ashland Magazine. She can
been seen hosting the Southern Oregon community television program,
“Transcending Life Challenges.”
A Reiki Master, Lukara is
currently studying to be a family constellation practitioner which is based on
the work of psychotherapist Bert Hellinger.
She now makes
her home in Southern Oregon with her family. You can write to Alissa at
info@lifechallenges.org For information:
www.ridinggrace.com.
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